I don’t get it

Why all the fuss over Abdul Rahman, the Muslim who converted to Christianity? Some people need to grow up.

What are you complaining about? Isn’t that why we bombed the crap out of Afghanistan and warmed the heels of the Taleban to the Pakistan border? So that Afghans have the freedom to put each other to death?

I mean, come on, you can’t spend all that money on cluster bombs to improve a country’s lot, to kill so many of them in order to free them, and then expect them not to act on that freedom. You can’t have it both ways, greedy. Where’s the logic and humanity in that, eh? Eh?

It would seem that current Western policy towards Afghanistan has been lifted from The Man Who Would be King, when Peachy Carnehan, realising that ruling Kafiristan is not all it’s been cracked up to be, tearfully snarls:

Leave them to slaughtering babies, playing stick-and-ball with heads and pissing on their neighbours.


Posted on March 22nd, 2006 at 8:10 am

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12 Comments

  1. Luis Enrique on 22.03.2006 at 10:53 Permalink | Reply

    So this puts you in the “better to have left the savages to it” camp does it? You, with Albion4ever?

    Maybe I am misinterpreting you [wouldn't be the first time]. Do you genuinely think that invasion of Afghanistan was a bad thing?

  2. Justin on 22.03.2006 at 11:04 Permalink | Reply

    Doesn’t put me anywhere, Luis. As you’ve said yourself: freedom is messy.

    We bombed Afghanistan back to freedom. If that’s freedom to hack each other’s heads off then what are we supposed to say - “hang on, this isn’t the kind of freedom we meant?” What do we do, bomb them again on the off chance they start behaving as we want them to next time?

    I love the fact that we further human rights by cluster bombing children. It sets us above the savages, wouldn’t you say? At least we didn’t use machetes.

    I love the grim humour of it all. The moral contridictions inherent in the Blair/Bush flavour of “humanitarian” intervention arouse me.

  3. Luis Enrique on 22.03.2006 at 12:00 Permalink | Reply

    I getcha. Although I like to think that as well as hacking each other’s heads off being not how we want them to behave, it’s also not what your average Afghan wants either. But I guess you do too.

    Anyway, what I meant to say was, your latest commentisfree post is a barnstormer.

  4. Devil's Kitchen on 22.03.2006 at 12:03 Permalink | Reply

    This, you see, was the big mistake that Bush and Blair made: they thought that, given the choice, people wouldn’t actually choose to behave like barbarians and nor would they choose to elect those who would behave thus.

    As some army guy in the Balkans allegedly said to P J O’Rourke: “Give ‘em better weapons and training, then seal the borders and let them get on with it…”

    DK

  5. Justin on 22.03.2006 at 12:17 Permalink | Reply

    Luis, I don’t want to see Afghans cutting each others heads off. As a regular commenter here you should know that.

    I’ve nothing against humanitarian intervention, it’s just that I believe only a fool would trust Bush and Blair to do it for them - as the likes of the Abdul Rahman case shows.

  6. Luis Enrique on 22.03.2006 at 12:36 Permalink | Reply

    Crossed wires somewhere. Not sure what gave the impression otherwise, but I don’t imagine for a moment that your indifferent (in favour? that would be something) to head chopping.

  7. Justin on 22.03.2006 at 13:01 Permalink | Reply

    Sorry Luis, I misread: “…it’s also not what your average Afghan wants either. But I guess you do too”.

  8. Nosemonkey on 22.03.2006 at 14:24 Permalink | Reply

    Oi - Palestine! We want you to have free and fair democratic elections or else we’ll have nothing to do with you!

    Oh, you did. And elected people we don’t like.

    Erm…

    Right, we’re cutting off funding unless the people you elected abandon their central policy, which you democratically voted for in free and fair elections! Ha!

    etc.

  9. Rochenko on 22.03.2006 at 15:30 Permalink | Reply

    Wait a minute, you’re all talking about representative democracy.
    We dropped bombs for Freedom, which is the liberty to consume too many nonrenewable resources, work long hours for too little money, and to pretend that encouraging private enterprise to ‘innovate’ is the single most important thing on the fucking planet. How does all that conflict with the right to execute random innocent people? After all (wait for it)… the American judicial system manages it all the time!

    B’dum tish.

  10. David (9 comments.) on 24.03.2006 at 09:49 Permalink | Reply

    I posted the address of the Afghan embassy here yesterday, so that people could write to them in protest. Now the comment has disappeared.

    How come?

  11. Justin on 24.03.2006 at 09:57 Permalink | Reply

    Sorry, David - nothing sinister. It must have got lost while I transferred my Blogger posts over to WordPress. I’m still checking to make sure everything made the journey.

    Feel free to post again.

  12. Mike on 31.03.2006 at 13:10 Permalink | Reply

    When someone makes a move
    Of which we don’t approve,
    Who is it that always intervenes?
    UN and OAS?
    They have their place, I guess,
    But first: Send the Marines!

    We’ll send them all we’ve got:
    John Wayne and Randolph Scott!
    Remember those exciting fighting scenes?
    To the shores of Tripoli
    But not to Mississippoli!
    What do we do? We send the Marines!

    For might makes right,
    And till they’ve seen the light
    They’ve got to be protected,
    All their rights respected,
    ’Til someone we like can be elected.
    Members of the Corps
    All hate the thought of war;
    They’d rather kill them off by peaceful means.
    Stop calling it aggression,
    Oh, we hate that expression!
    We only want the world to know
    That we support the status quo.
    They love us everywhere we go!
    So when in doubt,
    Send the Marines!

    Send the Marines, Tom Lehrer

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