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	<title>Comments on: Did things just get better or worse?</title>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.chickyog.net/2006/06/18/did-things-just-get-better-or-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-11970</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, talk about a hostage to fortune, that remark from Reid, &lt;b&gt;Moai&lt;/b&gt;. I, at least, plan to use it at every possible opportunity.

I like the idea of state-sponsored arranged marriages, &lt;b&gt;Ian&lt;/b&gt;. You could spice it up a bit by building a Saturday evening gameshow around the process. Get Dale Winton to present it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, talk about a hostage to fortune, that remark from Reid, <b>Moai</b>. I, at least, plan to use it at every possible opportunity.</p>
<p>I like the idea of state-sponsored arranged marriages, <b>Ian</b>. You could spice it up a bit by building a Saturday evening gameshow around the process. Get Dale Winton to present it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.chickyog.net/2006/06/18/did-things-just-get-better-or-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-11966</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It seems to be increasingly the case, in the orbit of my revoltingly liberal social circle at least.&quot;

Same here.  Bloody do-gooders, aren&#039;t we?  As Stephen Fry once said &#039;80% of child abuse occurs in families, and all but one known case of incest, and that turned out not to be incest at all&#039;.

The Moai has an excellent point there, this new spirit of Home Office openness is just begging for some FoIA requests...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It seems to be increasingly the case, in the orbit of my revoltingly liberal social circle at least.&#8221;</p>
<p>Same here.  Bloody do-gooders, aren&#8217;t we?  As Stephen Fry once said &#8216;80% of child abuse occurs in families, and all but one known case of incest, and that turned out not to be incest at all&#8217;.</p>
<p>The Moai has an excellent point there, this new spirit of Home Office openness is just begging for some FoIA requests&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.chickyog.net/2006/06/18/did-things-just-get-better-or-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-11965</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Force the buggers to stay together&lt;/i&gt;. Justin, you&#039;re not going far enough. The state should arrange marriages, using all the information it will have gathered via the National Identity Register to ensure a perfect match. Divorce would then simply wither away, apart from the initial spike as partners are re-assigned to more compatible spouses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Force the buggers to stay together</i>. Justin, you&#8217;re not going far enough. The state should arrange marriages, using all the information it will have gathered via the National Identity Register to ensure a perfect match. Divorce would then simply wither away, apart from the initial spike as partners are re-assigned to more compatible spouses.</p>
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		<title>By: The Moai</title>
		<link>http://www.chickyog.net/2006/06/18/did-things-just-get-better-or-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-11960</link>
		<dc:creator>The Moai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ã¢â‚¬Å“I start from the position that information should no longer remain the exclusive preserve of officialdomÃ¢â‚¬Â. 

Good stuff, I shall look forward to the July 7th inquiry then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ã¢â‚¬Å“I start from the position that information should no longer remain the exclusive preserve of officialdomÃ¢â‚¬Â. </p>
<p>Good stuff, I shall look forward to the July 7th inquiry then.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.chickyog.net/2006/06/18/did-things-just-get-better-or-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-11955</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say I enjoy the rich irony of the yahoos who stand up and extol the virtues of the family when the institution is the hole in which crouch some of society&#039;s most disgusting abuses. But that&#039;s just me.

I&#039;m not sure what you mean though, &lt;b&gt;Bob B&lt;/b&gt;, how is a rising number of babies born outside wedlock abolishing the family? Are all those babies left in the wild to be brought up wolves or something?

Me and my partner have two children and apart from not having an expensive piece of paper formalising it all we couldn&#039;t be a more sickeningly normal nuclear family. We&#039;ve been together 12 years. It seems to be increasingly the case, in the orbit of my revoltingly liberal social circle at least.

Wouldn&#039;t people who worry about the destruction of the family be better served by campaigning for the abolishment of divorce rather than hammering on about people not wanting to get married in the first place? Marriages falling apart? Force the buggers to stay together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say I enjoy the rich irony of the yahoos who stand up and extol the virtues of the family when the institution is the hole in which crouch some of society&#8217;s most disgusting abuses. But that&#8217;s just me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you mean though, <b>Bob B</b>, how is a rising number of babies born outside wedlock abolishing the family? Are all those babies left in the wild to be brought up wolves or something?</p>
<p>Me and my partner have two children and apart from not having an expensive piece of paper formalising it all we couldn&#8217;t be a more sickeningly normal nuclear family. We&#8217;ve been together 12 years. It seems to be increasingly the case, in the orbit of my revoltingly liberal social circle at least.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t people who worry about the destruction of the family be better served by campaigning for the abolishment of divorce rather than hammering on about people not wanting to get married in the first place? Marriages falling apart? Force the buggers to stay together.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For every complex problem, there is bound to be a simple solution.

According to expert testimony, 80 per cent of child abuse actually occurs in families. Abolish families and 80 per cent of the problem can be prevented. Fortunately (?), events are going that way anyway. Over 40 per cent of babies are now born to couples who aren&#039;t married.

That is correct, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For every complex problem, there is bound to be a simple solution.</p>
<p>According to expert testimony, 80 per cent of child abuse actually occurs in families. Abolish families and 80 per cent of the problem can be prevented. Fortunately (?), events are going that way anyway. Over 40 per cent of babies are now born to couples who aren&#8217;t married.</p>
<p>That is correct, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: redpesto</title>
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		<dc:creator>redpesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...don&#039;t forget to take your pitchfork!

PS: can someone explain why the Home Office is going to America to work out what they do with child abuse offenders? Okay, you might want to avoid Belgium (cf Marc Dutroux), but doesn&#039;t any part of the EU have anything to learn from? Not even Sweden (cf Polly Toynbee)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;don&#8217;t forget to take your pitchfork!</p>
<p>PS: can someone explain why the Home Office is going to America to work out what they do with child abuse offenders? Okay, you might want to avoid Belgium (cf Marc Dutroux), but doesn&#8217;t any part of the EU have anything to learn from? Not even Sweden (cf Polly Toynbee)?</p>
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		<title>By: Snooo</title>
		<link>http://www.chickyog.net/2006/06/18/did-things-just-get-better-or-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-11943</link>
		<dc:creator>Snooo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You could go and blow that up instead - after all, peados and muslims are pretty much the same thing, arenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t they?&lt;/i&gt;

You know, Muslims are genetically similar to crabs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You could go and blow that up instead &#8211; after all, peados and muslims are pretty much the same thing, arenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t they?</i></p>
<p>You know, Muslims are genetically similar to crabs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As thereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s no details given, no street name or rough location, I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t even know where to take my petrol bombs and poorly spelt placard.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Well you can always go after a pediatrician instead. They&#039;re much easier to find.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As thereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s no details given, no street name or rough location, I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t even know where to take my petrol bombs and poorly spelt placard.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well you can always go after a pediatrician instead. They&#8217;re much easier to find.</p>
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		<title>By: Watching Them, Watching Us</title>
		<link>http://www.chickyog.net/2006/06/18/did-things-just-get-better-or-worse/comment-page-1/#comment-11932</link>
		<dc:creator>Watching Them, Watching Us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So now that 60 or 70 child molestors have been shunted to bail hostels, &lt;strong&gt;slightly out of sight &lt;/strong&gt; of the nearest school, who would you prefer should be housed in the 11 hostels instead ?

Would you prefer &lt;strong&gt;knife wielding mobile phone muggers&lt;/strong&gt; or &lt;strong&gt;drug dealers&lt;/strong&gt; to have access to your children instead ?

The Sweeney child rapist case, which helped to spark off this furore involved the kidnap of a &lt;strong&gt;pre-school&lt;/strong&gt; infant and the &lt;strong&gt;use of a motor vehicle&lt;/strong&gt;. How would moving such a predator a bit further away from a school, or even telling a &lt;strong&gt;local&lt;/strong&gt; community about his presence have made any difference ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now that 60 or 70 child molestors have been shunted to bail hostels, <strong>slightly out of sight </strong> of the nearest school, who would you prefer should be housed in the 11 hostels instead ?</p>
<p>Would you prefer <strong>knife wielding mobile phone muggers</strong> or <strong>drug dealers</strong> to have access to your children instead ?</p>
<p>The Sweeney child rapist case, which helped to spark off this furore involved the kidnap of a <strong>pre-school</strong> infant and the <strong>use of a motor vehicle</strong>. How would moving such a predator a bit further away from a school, or even telling a <strong>local</strong> community about his presence have made any difference ?</p>
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