Comments on: HRW – The ‘Hoax’ That Wasn’t: The July 23 Qana Ambulance Attack http://www.chickyog.net/2006/12/21/hrw-the-%e2%80%9choax%e2%80%9d-that-wasn%e2%80%99t-the-july-23-qana-ambulance-attack/ The weblog of Brighton-based writer Justin McKeating Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:40:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Guy NIcholls http://www.chickyog.net/2006/12/21/hrw-the-%e2%80%9choax%e2%80%9d-that-wasn%e2%80%99t-the-july-23-qana-ambulance-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-25191 Guy NIcholls Sat, 06 Jan 2007 11:42:56 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2006/12/21/hrw-the-%e2%80%9choax%e2%80%9d-that-wasn%e2%80%99t-the-july-23-qana-ambulance-attack/#comment-25191 Interestingly China Mieville has a piece in Socialist Review(Nov.06)re-'The Lies That Aren't Mean't To Deceive Us'. He argues that political elites put out stories like the absurd Israeli justification for civilian loss of life on Gaza beach last June which are not meant to be believed.Rather the intention is to channel political outrage at such atrocities into exercises in fact-checking which are in themselves laudible but actually allow the Israelis to set the agenda.Instead of the question being how do we prevent it becomes of did they do it? There comes a point when those who give credibility to the patent lies of political elites become complicit in the surrender to powerful interests who mean to bludgeon us into submission to their imperialist agendas. The piece is worth a read not least because Aaronovich is cited as an example of one who willingly suspended his disbelief re-WMD but still refuses to recant.A more pliant chrus-leader for powerful elites it would be hard to find! Interestingly China Mieville has a piece in Socialist Review(Nov.06)re-’The Lies That Aren’t Mean’t To Deceive Us’.

He argues that political elites put out stories like the absurd Israeli justification for civilian loss of life on Gaza beach last June which are not meant to be believed.Rather the intention is to channel political outrage at such atrocities into exercises in fact-checking which are in themselves laudible but actually allow the Israelis to set the agenda.Instead of the question being how do we prevent it becomes of did they do it?

There comes a point when those who give credibility to the patent lies of political elites become complicit in the surrender to powerful interests who mean to bludgeon us into submission to their imperialist agendas.

The piece is worth a read not least because Aaronovich is cited as an example of one who willingly suspended his disbelief re-WMD but still refuses to recant.A more pliant chrus-leader for powerful elites it would be hard to find!

]]> By: Alex http://www.chickyog.net/2006/12/21/hrw-the-%e2%80%9choax%e2%80%9d-that-wasn%e2%80%99t-the-july-23-qana-ambulance-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-24828 Alex Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:41:35 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2006/12/21/hrw-the-%e2%80%9choax%e2%80%9d-that-wasn%e2%80%99t-the-july-23-qana-ambulance-attack/#comment-24828 In other news, man asphyxiates after holding breath awaiting Richard North's apology. In other news, man asphyxiates after holding breath awaiting Richard North’s apology.

]]> By: Katherine http://www.chickyog.net/2006/12/21/hrw-the-%e2%80%9choax%e2%80%9d-that-wasn%e2%80%99t-the-july-23-qana-ambulance-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-24827 Katherine Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:27:32 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2006/12/21/hrw-the-%e2%80%9choax%e2%80%9d-that-wasn%e2%80%99t-the-july-23-qana-ambulance-attack/#comment-24827 Trouble is, a lie can be half way around the world before the truth has got its running shoes on, to (badly) paraphrase Terry Pratchett... Trouble is, a lie can be half way around the world before the truth has got its running shoes on, to (badly) paraphrase Terry Pratchett…

]]> By: Flying Rodent http://www.chickyog.net/2006/12/21/hrw-the-%e2%80%9choax%e2%80%9d-that-wasn%e2%80%99t-the-july-23-qana-ambulance-attack/comment-page-1/#comment-24826 Flying Rodent Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:26:57 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2006/12/21/hrw-the-%e2%80%9choax%e2%80%9d-that-wasn%e2%80%99t-the-july-23-qana-ambulance-attack/#comment-24826 I have a test that I apply when stuff like this happens in the middle east. It goes like this - "Did the alleged perpetrators admit it?". If the answer is "Yes", I tend not to dig any deeper. I have a test that I apply when stuff like this happens in the middle east.

It goes like this – “Did the alleged perpetrators admit it?”.

If the answer is “Yes”, I tend not to dig any deeper.

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