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	<title>Comments on: Re-branding the herd</title>
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		<title>By: redpesto</title>
		<link>http://www.chickyog.net/2007/10/03/re-branding-the-herd/comment-page-1/#comment-34252</link>
		<dc:creator>redpesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, what amuses me is the idea that the Tories are going to &#039;consult&#039; on a decision they&#039;ve already taken (to reject the treaty). Why waste our time with a referendum if they think they can claim a &#039;mandate&#039; from an election victory? Is it to rub the noses of the EU/pro-Europeans/Ken Clarke in it? (And just wait until they try to ratify a European treaty they &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; want... heh heh heh...) Oh, and they&#039;ll also have a fun time explaining what they want from scrapping the Human Rights Act. (Will they be overruled in Europe or do they want out of the full Convention?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, what amuses me is the idea that the Tories are going to &#8216;consult&#8217; on a decision they&#8217;ve already taken (to reject the treaty). Why waste our time with a referendum if they think they can claim a &#8216;mandate&#8217; from an election victory? Is it to rub the noses of the EU/pro-Europeans/Ken Clarke in it? (And just wait until they try to ratify a European treaty they <i>do</i> want&#8230; heh heh heh&#8230;) Oh, and they&#8217;ll also have a fun time explaining what they want from scrapping the Human Rights Act. (Will they be overruled in Europe or do they want out of the full Convention?)</p>
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		<title>By: richard hannay</title>
		<link>http://www.chickyog.net/2007/10/03/re-branding-the-herd/comment-page-1/#comment-34211</link>
		<dc:creator>richard hannay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 23:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey hey, that&#039;s the one, Redpesto!

On Tory-related matters, I am enormously entertained (to the point of uttering helpless guffaws) by their whining on about a referendum on further Euro-entanglement-enablement-treaty-indenture-whatever... Hmm, not such a bad idea, really (I am very pro-Europe, to the point where I`d love to live in a united Europe with a real functioning democratic system, rather than the screwed-up, bureaucratic abortion we have just now)(but nationalistic tendencies being what they are, I can&#039;t see such Euro-harmony arising for another generation). Anyway, the point is that you don&#039;t ever, ever, EVER hear these Tory whiners demanding a national referendum on something like, say, invading another country at the behest of the USA&#039;s barking president.

Isn&#039;t it funny that the Europhobes are almost always pro-Yank, White House-adoring ra-ra-ra types?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey hey, that&#8217;s the one, Redpesto!</p>
<p>On Tory-related matters, I am enormously entertained (to the point of uttering helpless guffaws) by their whining on about a referendum on further Euro-entanglement-enablement-treaty-indenture-whatever&#8230; Hmm, not such a bad idea, really (I am very pro-Europe, to the point where I`d love to live in a united Europe with a real functioning democratic system, rather than the screwed-up, bureaucratic abortion we have just now)(but nationalistic tendencies being what they are, I can&#8217;t see such Euro-harmony arising for another generation). Anyway, the point is that you don&#8217;t ever, ever, EVER hear these Tory whiners demanding a national referendum on something like, say, invading another country at the behest of the USA&#8217;s barking president.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it funny that the Europhobes are almost always pro-Yank, White House-adoring ra-ra-ra types?</p>
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		<title>By: redpesto</title>
		<link>http://www.chickyog.net/2007/10/03/re-branding-the-herd/comment-page-1/#comment-34189</link>
		<dc:creator>redpesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/09/15/vote-cthulhu/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; what you meant, Richard?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is <a HREF="http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/09/15/vote-cthulhu/">this</a> what you meant, Richard?</p>
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		<title>By: sanbikinoraion</title>
		<link>http://www.chickyog.net/2007/10/03/re-branding-the-herd/comment-page-1/#comment-34186</link>
		<dc:creator>sanbikinoraion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon, Rich, did you see the banner he was speaking in front of?

&quot;Conservatives - time for a change&quot;

Er... I thought the idea was that conservatives were supposed to be &lt;i&gt;against&lt;/i&gt; change...

Talk about mixed messages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon, Rich, did you see the banner he was speaking in front of?</p>
<p>&#8220;Conservatives &#8211; time for a change&#8221;</p>
<p>Er&#8230; I thought the idea was that conservatives were supposed to be <i>against</i> change&#8230;</p>
<p>Talk about mixed messages.</p>
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		<title>By: richard hannay</title>
		<link>http://www.chickyog.net/2007/10/03/re-branding-the-herd/comment-page-1/#comment-34183</link>
		<dc:creator>richard hannay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t figure out who&#039;s more loathsome, New Labour who have done their best to tear out the soul of this country or the Tories who&#039;d want to do the same but without the cuddly buzzwords. Cameron et al believe in the same things as their Imperious Overlordmistress, La Thatch, you know the whole market-forces-alchemy-panacea litany, that drivelling melange of planet-crushing greed and self-righteous arrogance. Part of me almost wants the Tories to win the next election, just so that we can all finally understand that there`s no difference between Labour and Tories. 

Out there on the web, someone`s done a picture portraying the great god Cthulhu (see under Lovecraft) as a politician, with the tag line - &quot;Vote Cthulhu - at least he admits he&#039;s evil&quot;. Maybe that&#039;s one that Dave Cameron should use - &#039;Vote Tory - we won&#039;t lie about being complete bastards&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t figure out who&#8217;s more loathsome, New Labour who have done their best to tear out the soul of this country or the Tories who&#8217;d want to do the same but without the cuddly buzzwords. Cameron et al believe in the same things as their Imperious Overlordmistress, La Thatch, you know the whole market-forces-alchemy-panacea litany, that drivelling melange of planet-crushing greed and self-righteous arrogance. Part of me almost wants the Tories to win the next election, just so that we can all finally understand that there`s no difference between Labour and Tories. </p>
<p>Out there on the web, someone`s done a picture portraying the great god Cthulhu (see under Lovecraft) as a politician, with the tag line &#8211; &#8220;Vote Cthulhu &#8211; at least he admits he&#8217;s evil&#8221;. Maybe that&#8217;s one that Dave Cameron should use &#8211; &#8216;Vote Tory &#8211; we won&#8217;t lie about being complete bastards&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Otten</title>
		<link>http://www.chickyog.net/2007/10/03/re-branding-the-herd/comment-page-1/#comment-34182</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Otten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Transcript-ish:

http://davenicebutknave.blogspot.com/2007/10/that-conference-speech-in-full-again.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transcript-ish:</p>
<p><a href="http://davenicebutknave.blogspot.com/2007/10/that-conference-speech-in-full-again.html">http://davenicebutknave.blogspot.com/2007/10/that-conference-speech-in-full-again.html</a></p>
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