Comments on: The Reinterpretation Game http://www.chickyog.net/2008/02/11/the-reinterpretation-game/ The weblog of Brighton-based writer Justin McKeating Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:14:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: john b http://www.chickyog.net/2008/02/11/the-reinterpretation-game/comment-page-1/#comment-37823 john b Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:56:47 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2008/02/11/the-reinterpretation-game/#comment-37823 Fair play - where I am the numbers seem about equal (obviously wearing a burkha is more of an imposition than wearing pyjamas and a hat, but most of the women I see are wearing headscarves rather than burkhas). Fair play – where I am the numbers seem about equal (obviously wearing a burkha is more of an imposition than wearing pyjamas and a hat, but most of the women I see are wearing headscarves rather than burkhas).

]]> By: Backword Dave http://www.chickyog.net/2008/02/11/the-reinterpretation-game/comment-page-1/#comment-37822 Backword Dave Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:29:35 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2008/02/11/the-reinterpretation-game/#comment-37822 John, I don't want to get into a silly argument about Islam, but I see quite a lot of women in veils etc and very few men in 'traditional dress' - that is some kind of headgear or beards or whatever. I should have said 'cover their faces' rather than 'cover themselves' and been clearer about the demands on men. I still detect hypocrisy though. John, I don’t want to get into a silly argument about Islam, but I see quite a lot of women in veils etc and very few men in ‘traditional dress’ – that is some kind of headgear or beards or whatever. I should have said ‘cover their faces’ rather than ‘cover themselves’ and been clearer about the demands on men. I still detect hypocrisy though.

]]> By: ejh http://www.chickyog.net/2008/02/11/the-reinterpretation-game/comment-page-1/#comment-37815 ejh Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:40:38 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2008/02/11/the-reinterpretation-game/#comment-37815 <i>people like me will defend his right to demand public stoning for adultery or whatever it is he actually wants</i> Presumably this constitutes you being stupid on your own time? people like me will defend his right to demand public stoning for adultery or whatever it is he actually wants

Presumably this constitutes you being stupid on your own time?

]]> By: JohnM http://www.chickyog.net/2008/02/11/the-reinterpretation-game/comment-page-1/#comment-37813 JohnM Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:36:29 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2008/02/11/the-reinterpretation-game/#comment-37813 One of the many differences between Martin Amis and the AB of C is that Martin is not the head of an established church and leader of the Lords Spiritual in the House of Lords. This should not be news. It would be great if Williams could use some of his famously ample brain to get hold of this simple but important point: he is not a private individual but a public figure. Of course, if he resigns from the Archbishopric people like me will defend his right to demand public stoning for adultery or whatever it is he actually wants, as much as he likes. It's just he should be stupid on his own time, not ours. One of the many differences between Martin Amis and the AB of C is that Martin is not the head of an established church and leader of the Lords Spiritual in the House of Lords. This should not be news. It would be great if Williams could use some of his famously ample brain to get hold of this simple but important point: he is not a private individual but a public figure. Of course, if he resigns from the Archbishopric people like me will defend his right to demand public stoning for adultery or whatever it is he actually wants, as much as he likes. It’s just he should be stupid on his own time, not ours.

]]> By: john b http://www.chickyog.net/2008/02/11/the-reinterpretation-game/comment-page-1/#comment-37812 john b Tue, 12 Feb 2008 11:35:40 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2008/02/11/the-reinterpretation-game/#comment-37812 "a religion which insists that women cover themselves while making no such demands on men" Err, what the hell? Islam insists that both men and women dress modestly. That's why strictly Muslim gentlemen are rather more likely to wear pyjamas, a robe and a hat than, say, backless chaps and a thong... “a religion which insists that women cover themselves while making no such demands on men”

Err, what the hell? Islam insists that both men and women dress modestly. That’s why strictly Muslim gentlemen are rather more likely to wear pyjamas, a robe and a hat than, say, backless chaps and a thong…

]]> By: Paul Martin http://www.chickyog.net/2008/02/11/the-reinterpretation-game/comment-page-1/#comment-37811 Paul Martin Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:01:41 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2008/02/11/the-reinterpretation-game/#comment-37811 I wish he had reinteroreted your way Justin. It's what the media needed to hear. I gather the Daily Mail had a survey iun which the Archbishop was voted more dangerous than Abu Hamza so perhaps some really think that [rison is too good for him - only a university will make him suffer adequately! Am I alone in thinking that the way this has been blown up is like a premature "Silly season?" I wish he had reinteroreted your way Justin. It’s what the media needed to hear.

I gather the Daily Mail had a survey iun which the Archbishop was voted more dangerous than Abu Hamza so perhaps some really think that [rison is too good for him – only a university will make him suffer adequately!

Am I alone in thinking that the way this has been blown up is like a premature “Silly season?”

]]> By: Katie http://www.chickyog.net/2008/02/11/the-reinterpretation-game/comment-page-1/#comment-37808 Katie Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:33:49 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2008/02/11/the-reinterpretation-game/#comment-37808 I particularly loved the bit where a member of the General Synod was widely quoted as saying "the man belongs in a university or something" as if prison were too good for the likes of him! I particularly loved the bit where a member of the General Synod was widely quoted as saying “the man belongs in a university or something” as if prison were too good for the likes of him!

]]> By: poons http://www.chickyog.net/2008/02/11/the-reinterpretation-game/comment-page-1/#comment-37807 poons Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:21:22 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2008/02/11/the-reinterpretation-game/#comment-37807 Just be careful who you reinterpret. The label 'Sock puppet' is a heavy burden to carry. ;-) Just be careful who you reinterpret. The label ‘Sock puppet’ is a heavy burden to carry. ;-)

]]> By: Backword Dave http://www.chickyog.net/2008/02/11/the-reinterpretation-game/comment-page-1/#comment-37806 Backword Dave Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:17:27 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2008/02/11/the-reinterpretation-game/#comment-37806 Amis pretty much defended Williams against the press on Andrew Marr; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/andrew_marr_show/default.stm when he reviewed the papers with Amanda Platell. I read the speech (I followed your link to it last week) and I don't think the Archbish did himself any favours with double negatives and lots of wittering. He seemed to be saying "there's a nasty Sharia law, which no one would support, and a nice sharia law, which we should think about, because they seem to take otherwise useless tools in beards and dresses seriously in these Muslim countries and I want me some of that." I particularly liked the 'mind of god' bit of his argument. Sharia apparently deals with it directly. We could go back to dunking witches. If they float, they're guilty and we burn them. If they drown, the old man in the sky has gathered in another sheep or something. I think that was the last time we dealt with the author of the universe by telepathy instead of rational inquiry. He doesn't seem to realise that the divorce bit (which he does mention) doesn't go down well because a religion which insists that women cover themselves while making no such demands on men isn't likely to be altogether fair when it comes to marriage is it? I'm enjoying his pillorying hugely. Amis pretty much defended Williams against the press on Andrew Marr; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/andrew_marr_show/default.stm when he reviewed the papers with Amanda Platell.

I read the speech (I followed your link to it last week) and I don’t think the Archbish did himself any favours with double negatives and lots of wittering. He seemed to be saying “there’s a nasty Sharia law, which no one would support, and a nice sharia law, which we should think about, because they seem to take otherwise useless tools in beards and dresses seriously in these Muslim countries and I want me some of that.”

I particularly liked the ‘mind of god’ bit of his argument. Sharia apparently deals with it directly. We could go back to dunking witches. If they float, they’re guilty and we burn them. If they drown, the old man in the sky has gathered in another sheep or something. I think that was the last time we dealt with the author of the universe by telepathy instead of rational inquiry.

He doesn’t seem to realise that the divorce bit (which he does mention) doesn’t go down well because a religion which insists that women cover themselves while making no such demands on men isn’t likely to be altogether fair when it comes to marriage is it? I’m enjoying his pillorying hugely.

]]> By: Sarah http://www.chickyog.net/2008/02/11/the-reinterpretation-game/comment-page-1/#comment-37805 Sarah Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:34:33 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2008/02/11/the-reinterpretation-game/#comment-37805 If he had said that I would have reconsidered my atheism, on the grounds of awesome. Especially if the forum had been Thought for the Day. If he had said that I would have reconsidered my atheism, on the grounds of awesome. Especially if the forum had been Thought for the Day.

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