Comments on: Patriots: still a bit nuts in the head http://www.chickyog.net/2008/03/11/patriots-still-a-bit-nuts-in-the-head/ The weblog of Brighton-based writer Justin McKeating Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:14:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Huw http://www.chickyog.net/2008/03/11/patriots-still-a-bit-nuts-in-the-head/comment-page-1/#comment-38454 Huw Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:54:45 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2008/03/11/patriots-still-a-bit-nuts-in-the-head/#comment-38454 Howls of derision and mockery indeed to Brown, New Labour, Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors... It seems to me that they are trying to re-model the idea of British/English identity on some dodgie American style red-neck, flag waving idea. Pity New Labour are conveniently sweeping under the carpet that the Union Jack and the Royal Family represent hundreds of years of oppression, war, domination, exploitation and aggression. The real issue is of accepting collective guilt for the crimes of Empire "Where the sun never set and the blood of the natives never dried". Forward to the three Independent Republics of Wales, Scotland and England! Howls of derision and mockery indeed to Brown, New Labour, Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors…

It seems to me that they are trying to re-model the idea of British/English identity on some dodgie American style red-neck, flag waving idea.

Pity New Labour are conveniently sweeping under the carpet that the Union Jack and the Royal Family represent hundreds of years of oppression, war, domination, exploitation and aggression.

The real issue is of accepting collective guilt for the crimes of Empire “Where the sun never set and the blood of the natives never dried”.

Forward to the three Independent Republics of Wales, Scotland and England!

]]> By: British republicanism « pixelisation http://www.chickyog.net/2008/03/11/patriots-still-a-bit-nuts-in-the-head/comment-page-1/#comment-38442 British republicanism « pixelisation Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:15:31 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2008/03/11/patriots-still-a-bit-nuts-in-the-head/#comment-38442 [...] to swear an oath of allegiance to the monarch will lead to more than just howls of derision and mockery (as fun as such responses can be), but a real debate on British [...] [...] to swear an oath of allegiance to the monarch will lead to more than just howls of derision and mockery (as fun as such responses can be), but a real debate on British [...]

]]> By: Nosemonkey http://www.chickyog.net/2008/03/11/patriots-still-a-bit-nuts-in-the-head/comment-page-1/#comment-38435 Nosemonkey Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:57:08 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2008/03/11/patriots-still-a-bit-nuts-in-the-head/#comment-38435 I second this motion. A religious education turned me anti-religion. A eurosceptic Tory upbringing turned me pro-EU and if not Labour, at least anti-party. Especially while a teenager, if anyone told me to do something I'd have done precisely the opposite. In other words, this is precisely the sort of initiative you traitorous republican bastards should be supporting wholeheartedly, and is probably an indication of yet another devious EUSSR-inspired "NuLabour" plot to further undermine the sovereignty of this once great nation* of ours. * for variable definitions of nation I second this motion. A religious education turned me anti-religion. A eurosceptic Tory upbringing turned me pro-EU and if not Labour, at least anti-party.

Especially while a teenager, if anyone told me to do something I’d have done precisely the opposite.

In other words, this is precisely the sort of initiative you traitorous republican bastards should be supporting wholeheartedly, and is probably an indication of yet another devious EUSSR-inspired “NuLabour” plot to further undermine the sovereignty of this once great nation* of ours.

* for variable definitions of nation

]]> By: D-Notice http://www.chickyog.net/2008/03/11/patriots-still-a-bit-nuts-in-the-head/comment-page-1/#comment-38432 D-Notice Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:10:33 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2008/03/11/patriots-still-a-bit-nuts-in-the-head/#comment-38432 Hopefully it'll have the same impact as (speaking from experience) sending the kiddies to religious school - it'll turn them against it completely when the grow up... If so, I'm all for it! Hopefully it’ll have the same impact as (speaking from experience) sending the kiddies to religious school – it’ll turn them against it completely when the grow up… If so, I’m all for it!

]]> By: Beau Bo D'Or http://www.chickyog.net/2008/03/11/patriots-still-a-bit-nuts-in-the-head/comment-page-1/#comment-38431 Beau Bo D'Or Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:13:25 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2008/03/11/patriots-still-a-bit-nuts-in-the-head/#comment-38431 <a href="http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/domestic_politics/britain%2B4evr%2Bby%2Bbeau%2Bbo%2Bdor/1762547" rel="nofollow">a few secs for an oath? Why not - it's easy - picture here.</a> a few secs for an oath? Why not – it’s easy – picture here.

]]> By: Lobster Blogster http://www.chickyog.net/2008/03/11/patriots-still-a-bit-nuts-in-the-head/comment-page-1/#comment-38420 Lobster Blogster Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:55:19 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2008/03/11/patriots-still-a-bit-nuts-in-the-head/#comment-38420 The affairs of humans have long baffled this particular lobster. How an American style ceremony is going to make someone feel more British is such a mystery. Other ideas which were apparently ruled out were performing a haka before school sports day, and goosestepping around the playground during breaks. The affairs of humans have long baffled this particular lobster. How an American style ceremony is going to make someone feel more British is such a mystery. Other ideas which were apparently ruled out were performing a haka before school sports day, and goosestepping around the playground during breaks.

]]> By: Neil http://www.chickyog.net/2008/03/11/patriots-still-a-bit-nuts-in-the-head/comment-page-1/#comment-38418 Neil Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:35:42 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2008/03/11/patriots-still-a-bit-nuts-in-the-head/#comment-38418 Heh, St Rupert. It seems only fair that people who want to sell stuff here should swear allegiance to the Queen as well, no? Heh, St Rupert. It seems only fair that people who want to sell stuff here should swear allegiance to the Queen as well, no?

]]> By: Dave Hansell http://www.chickyog.net/2008/03/11/patriots-still-a-bit-nuts-in-the-head/comment-page-1/#comment-38417 Dave Hansell Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:25:56 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2008/03/11/patriots-still-a-bit-nuts-in-the-head/#comment-38417 Pledge of allegiance to queen and country? How quaintly 19th century? Surely everyone knows that in the modern 21st century allegiance is given to ones's Company? Pledge of allegiance to queen and country? How quaintly 19th century? Surely everyone knows that in the modern 21st century allegiance is given to ones’s Company?

]]> By: Richard Hannay http://www.chickyog.net/2008/03/11/patriots-still-a-bit-nuts-in-the-head/comment-page-1/#comment-38416 Richard Hannay Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:56:37 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2008/03/11/patriots-still-a-bit-nuts-in-the-head/#comment-38416 Maybe we should have an oath of allegiance more in keep with our basic cultural norms, something along the lines of - "I swear allegiance to Eastenders, Big Brother, and the Holy Journal of Saint Rupert, that which is known as the Sun. I affirm my readiness to shop and my undying faith in the Catalogue of Argos." Maybe we should have an oath of allegiance more in keep with our basic cultural norms, something along the lines of –

“I swear allegiance to Eastenders, Big Brother, and the Holy Journal of Saint Rupert, that which is known as the Sun. I affirm my readiness to shop and my undying faith in the Catalogue of Argos.”

]]> By: “I pledge allegiance to the… Queen?” « The Bleeding Heart Show http://www.chickyog.net/2008/03/11/patriots-still-a-bit-nuts-in-the-head/comment-page-1/#comment-38415 “I pledge allegiance to the… Queen?” « The Bleeding Heart Show Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:50:09 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/2008/03/11/patriots-still-a-bit-nuts-in-the-head/#comment-38415 [...] Justin McKeating on what it means to be British: I’ve been giving some thought as to what gives us a sense of [...] [...] Justin McKeating on what it means to be British: I’ve been giving some thought as to what gives us a sense of [...]

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