Comments on: New Labour’s problem solving: a lesson to us all http://www.chickyog.net/2008/11/11/new-labours-problem-solving-a-lesson-to-us-all/ The weblog of Brighton-based writer Justin McKeating Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:40:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Dave Hansell http://www.chickyog.net/2008/11/11/new-labours-problem-solving-a-lesson-to-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-42772 Dave Hansell Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:04:19 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/?p=3654#comment-42772 Careful Justin - your reality based description of how this "progressive" (ie. NOT the Tory Party) administration (which was supposed to be different) operates is likely to bring down upon your head accusations of cynicism and carping from the "left" from the usual suspects eagerly competing with each other for the mantle of Squealer (from Orwell's Animal Farm). You'll be telling us next that its wrong to be a hypocrite. Careful Justin – your reality based description of how this “progressive” (ie. NOT the Tory Party) administration (which was supposed to be different) operates is likely to bring down upon your head accusations of cynicism and carping from the “left” from the usual suspects eagerly competing with each other for the mantle of Squealer (from Orwell’s Animal Farm).

You’ll be telling us next that its wrong to be a hypocrite.

]]> By: Gordo at This is Omar’s blog http://www.chickyog.net/2008/11/11/new-labours-problem-solving-a-lesson-to-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-42766 Gordo at This is Omar’s blog Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:46:51 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/?p=3654#comment-42766 [...] Also > Chicken Yoghurt [...] [...] Also > Chicken Yoghurt [...]

]]> By: Monoi http://www.chickyog.net/2008/11/11/new-labours-problem-solving-a-lesson-to-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-42762 Monoi Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:44:21 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/?p=3654#comment-42762 Whether that was the case with mps or not is a moot point, since 2 wrongs don't make a right. Whether that was the case with mps or not is a moot point, since 2 wrongs don’t make a right.

]]> By: Letters From A Tory http://www.chickyog.net/2008/11/11/new-labours-problem-solving-a-lesson-to-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-42761 Letters From A Tory Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:18:34 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/?p=3654#comment-42761 You just know that the threat to the national media will mean that the definition of 'national security' becomes ever greater. That said, leaking details of a live investigation was bloody stupid. http://www.lettersfromatory.com You just know that the threat to the national media will mean that the definition of ‘national security’ becomes ever greater. That said, leaking details of a live investigation was bloody stupid.

http://www.lettersfromatory.com

]]> By: Justin http://www.chickyog.net/2008/11/11/new-labours-problem-solving-a-lesson-to-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-42760 Justin Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:02:13 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/?p=3654#comment-42760 I think you're right. Thinking about it, I suppose the timing of the 'announcement' about rebellious MPs is the killer. Why now? I think because it helps to show that <i>Gordon's back and he's pissed off. He's not taking any more shit. He knows what's best. Don't get in his way</i>. That it serves to reinforce the public perception of MPs as self-serving careerists who are corralled by appealing to their ambitions and wallets rather than their consciences doesn't seem to have occurred to anyone in the high command. I think you’re right. Thinking about it, I suppose the timing of the ‘announcement’ about rebellious MPs is the killer. Why now? I think because it helps to show that Gordon’s back and he’s pissed off. He’s not taking any more shit. He knows what’s best. Don’t get in his way.

That it serves to reinforce the public perception of MPs as self-serving careerists who are corralled by appealing to their ambitions and wallets rather than their consciences doesn’t seem to have occurred to anyone in the high command.

]]> By: ejh http://www.chickyog.net/2008/11/11/new-labours-problem-solving-a-lesson-to-us-all/comment-page-1/#comment-42759 ejh Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:18:13 +0000 http://www.chickyog.net/?p=3654#comment-42759 <i>MPs who have voted against the government in the past year will not be recommended for positions on parliamentary committees. </i> Just asking, but wouldn't something similar be normal practice, not something particular to New Labour? Backbenchers who vote against their party don't usually find favour when it comes to consdieration for promotion. Possibly that's more accentuated in New Labour than it has been previously, but I wouldn't say so for sure. It's perhaps worth adding that one persistent NL habit when coming under criticism has been to apologise and promise to "listen" in the future. After a while this has roughly the same effect as the manager who tells you that their door is always open. MPs who have voted against the government in the past year will not be recommended for positions on parliamentary committees.

Just asking, but wouldn’t something similar be normal practice, not something particular to New Labour? Backbenchers who vote against their party don’t usually find favour when it comes to consdieration for promotion. Possibly that’s more accentuated in New Labour than it has been previously, but I wouldn’t say so for sure.

It’s perhaps worth adding that one persistent NL habit when coming under criticism has been to apologise and promise to “listen” in the future. After a while this has roughly the same effect as the manager who tells you that their door is always open.

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