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Usmanov elsewhere

I’ve got a piece about the Alisher Usmanov affair up at Index on Censorship.

Posted on October 2nd, 2007 at 2:22 pm

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Bloggerheads back

Tim Ireland’s Bloggerheads site is back. Craig Murray will hopefully be back very soon.

Update 2/10: Clive Summerfield’s back as well.

Posted on October 1st, 2007 at 10:36 am

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You just made the list

The list of people who declared their support when Alisher Usmanov’s lawyers, Schillings, managed to take down Craig Murray’s, Boris Johnson’s, Tim Ireland’s and Bob Piper’s blogs has now moved here.

The original post has served its purpose and only became the information hub by accident - it was only really meant to be a heads-up message - but it was very heartening to see so much support become linked to it. It’s right now however that the list be based somewhere else. Many thanks to everyone who blogged, linked, emailed and slashdotted while the list was here. It was quite the exciting and busy few days.

Anybody who has blogged in support about all this and hasn’t yet made the list (we’re watching Google Blogsearch as well) can let me, Tim Ireland (bloggerheads DOT com AT googlemail DOT com) or Aaron (tyger AT tygerland DOT net) know and we’ll see that you’re added. Ditto for anybody who hasn’t yet blogged and would like to - your views, ideas and support would be extremely welcome.

Posted on September 28th, 2007 at 1:41 pm

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291

That’s how many bloggers are now on the case of Alisher Usmanov a week after the initial blog takedown. The updated list is here. Keep the links coming.

(Update: A lot of bloggers on the list are now following up on their original posts - there’s a lot of great stuff put there if you do a little browsing. I’ve noticed one or two people apologising about ‘coming late to the party’. Please, don’t. This isn’t a race, this about sharing views and showing solidarity. If you haven’t blogged this yet and would like to, or have but haven’t let us know, please do.)

Tim Ireland is now well and truly back in the saddle over at Bloggerheads: The Alisher Usmanov Affair. He now has a timeline of events describing everything that has a happened so far. Plenty of juicy detail in there with many a twist and turn.

Also worth a look is EM Daily’s Cyberactivism 101, with 10 tips for effective web activism drawn from lessons learned in the last week.

UPDATE: Tim Ireland again:

Watch for… a cross-spectrum evolution of this campaign once the fact-finding process nears completion; if you’re hesitant because you think you’ll be marching under my banner or Craig Murray’s, think again.

Everyone should have the right to take part in open and honest debate online; this is going to be your best chance to fight for that right, secure it in law or precedent, and finally establish the importance of blogs in general.

Update @ 4.45pm: It’s 301 now.

Posted on September 27th, 2007 at 9:33 am

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It’s been a privilege

Oh, dear

Tonight, during the Saryusz-Wolski report “Towards a common European foreign policy on energy” the Euro realist MEP Tom Wise will use parliamentary privilege to spell out the allegations against Alisher Usmanov. He has been talking to Craig Murray to ensure that the allegations are accurate and to the point.

Looks like Usmanov’s lawyers, Schillings, might want to review their strategy:

Laura Tyler, of Schillings, said they did not intend to sue Murray directly because they did not want to give him a platform to express his views.

Instead, hundred of thousands of people now know who Alisher Usmanov is, and have formed their own judgement of him in the absence of any facts or defence from Schillings. Good work.

UPDATE: MP3 of Tom Wise making his statement. Go listen - it’s dynamite. (Many thanks to Matthias at Swiss Metablog).

Posted on September 26th, 2007 at 9:52 am

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Tim’s temporary territory

While his Bloggerheads site is being restored, Tim Ireland is blogging about the Alisher Usmanov business right here.

If anybody would be kind enough to spread the word, it would be greatly appreciated.

Posted on September 25th, 2007 at 12:29 pm

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Take courage, Gordon

It’s been 90 days since Gordon Brown became Prime Minister, and over 100 since he captured her in print and selflessly brought her plight to a wider audience.

But there’s still no word on how Gordon plans to spring Aung San Suu Kyi from her less metaphorical prison. Maybe it’s his October Surprise to woo the activists after he’s called the election.

Posted on September 24th, 2007 at 6:36 pm

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Withdraw your support

unsubscribe from human rights abuse in the war on terror

Update: I’ve been told in the comments in no uncertain terms that, despite this being my blog to run as I see fit, it is incumbent on me to explain just what that link is for, the destination website’s self-explanatory page being a bridge too far for some, clearly.

Unsubscribe is Amnesty International’s new initiative to register concern and protest at the way The War Against Terror has been/ is being conducted. You know, torture, extraordinary rendition, those kind of things.

This has been a public service announcement for the time-poor, lazy and/or misanthropic.

Posted on September 23rd, 2007 at 11:56 am

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Public Service Announcement - Craig Murray, Tim Ireland, Boris Johnson, Bob Piper and Alisher Usmanov…

UPDATE Thursday 27/9 @ 9.30am: Apologies for the slack service yesterday.

  • Tim Ireland is now well and truly back in the saddle over at Bloggerheads: The Alisher Usmanov Affair. He now has a timeline of events describing everything that has a happened so far. Plenty of juicy detail in there with many a twist and turn.
  • 291 people now linking to and blogging about this story. A lot of bloggers on the list are now following up on their original posts - there’s a lot of great stuff put there if you do a little browsing. I’ve noticed one or two people apologising about ‘coming late to the party’. Please, don’t. This isn’t a race, this about sharing views and showing solidarity. If you haven’t blogged this yet and would like to, or have but haven’t let us know, please do.
  • The Moscow Times have reported on it. The story was slashdotted here.

UPDATE Tuesday 25/9 @ 12.30pm: While his Bloggerheads site is being restored, Tim Ireland is blogging about all this here. I’ll continue to maintain the list of people blogging and linking to all this if people still wish to send me links.

UPDATE Tuesday 25/09 @ 8.45am:

Let me know if anybody sees anything else we should be linking to.

HEADS UP 24/9: Mr Eugenides and Bob Piper will be on Five Live’s Pods and Blogs slot this evening, talking about all this. The show will also be available tomorrow the BBC’s listen again feature and as a podcast.

HEADS-UP: Pickled Politic’s Sunny Hundal is on More 4 News this evening (21/9) at 8pm talking about this and free speech on the web. (UPDATE 21/9 @ 10PM - Mike Power has the video.)

Tim Ireland’s Bloggerheads site is currently down after his webhost pulled the plug. You can thank the latest Russian (that should be Uzbek) billionaire to reach the UK. The details will come out in due course.

Tim’s currently also without email so if anyone needs to get hold of him, I’m happy to be the go-between and pass on any message by phone. My email address is at the top of the page.

This also means that the family of websites that Tim and Clive (whose site is also down) look after are also currently AWOL. So if you’re missing the online presences of Craig Murray, Bob Piper or prospective candidate for London mayor Boris Johnson, now you know why they’ve gone.

Tim and Clive are now looking for a new web home for themselves and the rest and are hoping to be back within 48 hours. If any sympathetic souls would help spread the word, it would be most appreciated.

Update: Some more background (via Garry). Those wishing to know more could do worse than a quick google.

Linkage: Thanks to one and all, I think we can safely say the genie is out of the bottle:

Curious Hamster, Pickled Politics, Harry’s Place, Tim Worstall, Dizzy, Iain Dale, Ten Percent, Blairwatch, Davide Simonetti, Earthquake Cove, Turbulent Cleric (who suggests dropping a line to the FA about Mr Usmanov), Mike Power, Jailhouse Lawyer, Suesam, Devil’s Kitchen, The Cartoonist, Falco, Casualty Monitor, Forever Expat, Arseblog, Drink-soaked Trots (and another), Pitch Invasion, Wonko’s World, Roll A Monkey, Caroline Hunt, Westminster Wisdom, Chris K, Anorak, Mediawatchwatch, Norfolk Blogger, Chris Paul, Indymedia (with a list of Craig Murray’s articles that are currently unavailable), Obsolete, Tom Watson, Cynical Chatter, Reactionary Snob, Mr Eugenides, Matthew Sinclair, The Select Society, Liberal England, Davblog, Peter Gasston Pitch Perfect, Adelaide Green Porridge Cafe, Lunartalks, Tygerland, The Crossed Pond, Our Kingdom, Big Daddy Merk, Daily Mail Watch, Graeme’s, Random Thoughts, Nosemonkey, Matt Wardman, Politics in the Zeros, Love and Garbage, The Huntsman, Conservative Party Reptile, Ellee Seymour, Sabretache, Not A Sheep, Bartholomew’s Notes on Religion, The People’s Republic Of Newport, Life, the Universe & Everything, Arsenal Transfer Rumour Mill, The Green Ribbon, Blood & Treasure, The Last Ditch, Areopagitica, Football in Finland, An Englishman’s Castle, Freeborn John, Eursoc, The Back Four, Rebellion Suck!, Ministry of Truth, ModernityBlog, Beau Bo D’Or, Scots and Independent, The Splund, Bill Cameron, Podnosh, Dodgeblogium, Moving Target, Serious Golmal, Goonerholic, The Spine, Zero Point Nine, Lenin’s Tomb, The Durruti Column, The Bristol Blogger, ArseNews, David Lindsay, Quaequam Blog!, On A Quiet Day…, Kathz’s Blog, England Expects, Theo Spark, Duncan Borrowman, Senn’s Blog, Katykins, Jewcy, Kevin Maguire, Stumbling and Mumbling, Famous for 15 megapixels, Ordovicius, Tom Morris, AOL Fanhouse, Doctor Vee, The Curmudgeonly, The Poor Mouth, 1820, Hangbitch, Crooked Timber, ArseNole, Identity Unknown, Liberty Alone, Amused Cynicism, Clairwil, The Lone Voice, Tampon Teabag, Unoriginalname38, Special/Blown It, The Remittance Man, 18 Doughty Street, Laban Tall, Martin Bright, Spy Blog The Exile, poons, Jangliss, Who Knows Where Thoughts Come From?, Imagined Community, A Pint of Unionist Lite, Poldraw, Disillusioned And Bored, Error Gorilla, Indigo Jo, Swiss Metablog, Kate Garnwen Truemors, Asn14, D-Notice, The Judge, Political Penguin, Miserable Old Fart, Jottings, fridgemagnet, Blah Blah Flowers, J. Arthur MacNumpty, Tony Hatfield, Grendel, Charlie Whitaker, Matt Buck, The Waendel Journal, Marginalized Action Dinosaur, SoccerLens, Toblog, John Brissenden East Lower, Electronic Frontier Foundation, Peter Black AM, Boing Boing, BLTP, Gunnerblog, LFB UK, Liberal Revolution, Wombles, Focus on Sodbury…, Follow The Money, Freedom and Whisky, Melting Man, PoliticalHackUK, Simon Says…, Daily EM, From The Barrel of a Gun, The Fourth Place, The Armchair News Blog, Journalist und Optimist, Bristol Indymedia, Dave Weeden, Up North John, Gizmonaut, Spin and Spinners, Marginalia, Arnique, Heather Yaxley, The Whiskey Priest, On The Beat, Paul Canning, Martin Stabe, Mat Bowles, Pigdogfucker, Rachel North, B3TA board, Naqniq, Yorkshire Ranter, The Home Of Football, UFO Breakfast Recipients, Moninski , Kerching, e-clectig, Mediocracy, Sicily Scene, Samizdata, I blog, they blog, weblog, Colcam, Some Random Thoughts, Bel is thinking, Vino S, Simply Jews, Atlantic Free Press, Registan, Filasteen, Britblog Roundup #136, Scientific Misconduct Blog, Adam Bowie, Duncan at Abcol, Camera Anguish, A Very British Dude, Whatever, Central News, Green Gathering, Leighton Cooke, Skuds’ Sister’s Brother, Contrast News, Poliblog Perspective, Parish Pump, El Gales, Noodle, Curly’s Corner Shop, Freunde der offenen Gesellschaft, otromundoesposible, Richard Stacy, Looking For A Voice, News Dissector, Kateshomeblog, Writes Like She Talks, Extra! Extra!, Committee To Protect Bloggers, Liberty’s Requiem, American Samizdat, The Thunder Dragon, Cybersoc, Achievable Life, Paperholic, Creative-i, Raedwald, Nobody’s Friend, Lobster Blogster, Panchromatica, Back off, man…, Dan Hardie, Krusenstern, Brendadada, Freace, Boriswatch, Fork Handles, Chris Applegate, Christopher Glamorgan, West Virginia Rebel’s Blog, Instapundit, Powerpymes, iDiligence Forum, Gizmotastic, Demos, Gary Andrews, Neweurasia , Never Trust a Hippy, sub specie aeternitatis, Bananas in the Falklands, The Sharpener, Virtual Light, Stu News, Scraps of Moscow, Danivon, As A Dodo, La Russophobe, PJC Journal, Mick Fealty’s Brassneck, dead brains don’t dance, A Comfortable Place, Bamblog, Robert Amsterdam, The Customer, No Longer at Ease, Rachel-Catherine, Humaniform, Mike Rouse, Chesus Yuste, anticapitalista, Aderyn Cân, Ulla’s Amazing Wee Blog, Ross200, Disruptive, Internazionale.it, The Obscurer, A Lefty Down Under, Things I Learned or Made Up, Pickled Bushman, Persons Unknown (302).

…and to the person who was quick off the mark with Usmanov’s Wikipedia entry.

If you’ve blogged this and I’ve missed you, I apologise. Let me know in the comments and I’ll add you in - strength in numbers and all that.

UPDATE: A point of clarification: Of the blogs mentioned above, only Craig Murray and Tim Ireland made blog posts concerning Alisher Usmanov. It is these blog posts that were objected to by Usmanov’s lawyers.

Boris Johnson, Bob Piper and Clive Summerfield have lost their sites for the simple reason that they were hosted on the the same server as Craig’s and Tim’s sites and went the same way when the plug was pulled. They are NOT associated with the dispute with Alisher Usmanov in any way.

UPDATE UPDATED: Tim Ireland now has a webmail account for anyone wishing to contact him while his blog is being restored: bloggerheads DOT com AT googlemail DOT com

UPDATE UPDATED UPDATED: Mr Eugenides:

If you can be silenced for calling a businessman a crook, then you can be silenced for calling a politician a crook, too. Then it’s everyone’s problem.

UPDATE 22/09: Clive Summerfield, the mighty webmaster for these sites, has manage to secure back-ups of them all from webhost’s servers. All the data is now safe. He’s now working at uploading the sites to new servers at a different host.

UPDATE 22/09 @ 10am 12:30pm: 154 171 people are linking in to this story here and elsewhere. That’s a huge coalition built in less than 48 hours and encompassing people from all over the spectrum - many thanks to one and all.

UPDATE 22/09 @ 12:40pm: Matt Buck:

(Reproduced under CC licence).

UPDATE 22/09 @ 6:30pm: Facebook group and blog buttons. Mike Power’s buttons are a bit good as well (look under ‘Action Stations’ on his left sidebar).

UPDATE 23/09 @ 8.20am: Ministry of Truth has some rather smart blog buttons as well.

UPDATE 23/09 @ 8.30am: Clive Summerfield, Craig Murray’s webmaster writes:

People are probably encountering posts claiming that Fasthosts also edited a post on Craig’s blog. This was not the case, as anyone who read the comments to the post in question would have noticed.

As the intermediary (Craig’s site was hosted gratis on one of my dedicated servers at Fasthosts), I was trying to pre-empt a further issue, and made a misread correction. This was explained to Craig by email, and an apology given. Yes there are issues of censorship and restricted freedom of speech, but this instance is not one of them.

And believe me, selective editing is far too sophisticated for Fasthosts, they’d have just dropped the site.

The confusion lies in the fact that I hosted Craig’s site on my web-server, but I was more of a supporter, friend and webmaster. However, as I was hosting the site, webhost is also an accurate description. Fasthosts were merely supplying dedicated servers to me.

And for the record, a note was made that 2 changes had been made on legal advice. I’ve been hosting Craig’s blog for a number of years, and helped with the mirroring and distribution of the documents the FCO asked Craig to remove from his book.

Anyway, just trying to put this one matter/misunderstanding to bed, before folks get carried away in an Orwellian haze.

UPDATE 23/09 @ 8.50am: 191 people are linking in to this story here and elsewhere. That’s one hell of a show of solidarity from all over the spectrum - many thanks to one and all.

Please let me or Sunny know if anybody has any more links and we’ll add them in.

I’ve seen that some people have put a copy of this list of bloggers on their own sites. I’m very happy for people to do this and encourage you to do so if you so wish. To make life a little easier, here’s some cut and paste code which I’ll also keep updated. Stick it in your blog post and the list will appear.

UPDATE 23/9 @8.20pm: Back, back, back! Ladies and gentlemen: Bob Piper!

UPDATE 24/9 @7.30am: Interim Statement from Clive Summerfield and Tim Ireland:

We’d like to thank you all for your support and let you all know just what the hell has been going on, but we beg your patience as we continue with the practical measures required before we can fully and confidently speak our minds about this matter.

Our immediate priority is the restoration of the websites involved; this has been greatly complicated by the sudden closure of the entire account (as opposed to, say, the suspension or closure of the two websites directly involved in the Usmanov dispute). This total - and totally unexpected - withdrawal of service requires us to restore many websites with differing individual circumstances and formats. The removal of email used for the majority of these accounts has also further complicated matters, as the most immediate form of communication between many of the parties involved is no longer available.

Bob Piper is already back on deck, and we expect Boris Johnson’s weblog to be up and running shortly. Special arrangements are being made for Craig Murray as we speak.

A full statement is likely to follow the restoration of Bloggerheads and/or The UK Today, as it is at one of these websites that we would wish to host a full statement and manage the expected response.

UPDATE 24/9 @ 8.30am: 224 people following and linking to the story. Many thanks to everyone - keep them coming and maintain the momentum.

UPDATE 24/9 @ 9.15am: You’ve got to love this from Matt Wardman:

Needless to say, all the offending articles that Mr Usmanov and Schillings have attempted to remove from public view are available in the Google Cache. And you can find them by using the search term “schillings“.

As far as I can tell Schillings’ own website does not feature in the top 100 results for either Google UK or google.com, except for the “sponsored” link which everyone ignores.

Perhaps they may need a Search Engine Optimisation Consultant as well as a Public Relations Consultant.

I can recommend a good one.

His name is Tim Ireland, and he runs a website called Bloggerheads when it has not been bullied off the air.

MSM COVERAGE: Media Guardian, including Boris’ reaction, Channel 4 News, The Times, Slate, Sunday Herald, More 4.

UPDATE 24/9 @ 10.30am: Thanks to Matthew Revell, here’s Mr Eugenides‘ excellent take on events on Wolverhampton Politics.

UPDATE 24/9 @ 5pm: Bit late with this, but via Arseblog in the comments:

If you should be browsing your visitor stats for your blog and you find any IP addresses in the range 217.33.207.160 to 217.33.207.191, those visitors are from Schillings, Mr Usmanov’s lawyers.

Posted on September 20th, 2007 at 4:40 pm

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Guardian: UK arms export policy criticised

Here:

The government has approved arms exports to 19 of the 20 countries it has identified as “countries of concern” for abusing human rights, according to the annual report on its weapons exports released yesterday. They include Saudi Arabia, Israel, Colombia, China and Russia.

This was my favourite bit:

A Whitehall official said the government takes into account whether arms were likely to be used for internal repression or external aggression.

So what are they going to used for then, if all those bangsticks aren’t allowed to go bang? Are, as we speak, China’s enemies gathering along the borders? ‘Oh yeah, they’ve got loads of weapons but it says here they’re not allowed to use them.’ If you were in a Russian battalion equipped with British kit, you’d be shifting a brick, eh? Don’t want to piss Whitehall off do we?

Posted on July 25th, 2007 at 12:41 pm

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Ingrate

It’s 28 days since Gordon Brown became Prime Minister and still no word of when he’s going to spring Aung San Suu Kyi. And her being so helpful to his leadership bid and everything.

Posted on July 24th, 2007 at 3:35 pm

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Reefer madness

I wish I’d written this.

Posted on July 19th, 2007 at 8:26 am

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Jim Bliss - Lord Goldsmith: The biggest balls in Britain?

Now, there’s no doubt in my mind that Lord Goldsmith’s role during the past few years has essentially been to try and convince anyone who’ll listen that New Labour’s participation in the outright destruction of a sovereign nation — I’m talking about Iraq here, not the UK — and murder of between 2 and 3 percent of the population, is completely legal and above-board. Whenever Tony Blair did something that should rightly land him in a cell in The Hague, Lord Goldsmith popped up and said it was completely legal and above-board. There’s a P.R. agent in the novel I’m writing. His name is Henry Stone and it’s his job to spin the actions of a rich psychopath so that they appear completely legal and above-board. He’s a bit part, not a significant character, but the consequences of his actions have serious ramifications and permit said psychopath to continue his nastiness. In the language of psychology we would describe Henry Stone as “an enabler”.

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Posted on June 29th, 2007 at 7:30 pm

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Taking Liberties

Posted on May 7th, 2007 at 10:41 am

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The Yorkshire Ranter: The next big miscarriage of justice

What would you think if I told you the police had accused 5,000 British citizens of a really unpleasant, despicable crime, the sort of thing where just being questioned is the kind of news that could destroy your family, career, and psyche, that some 39 of them had committed suicide as a result, but quite possibly every man-jack of them was innocent?

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Posted on April 21st, 2007 at 5:42 pm

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Magnitizdat*

There’s an ace article in the Guardian today by the mighty John Harris which manages to satisfyingly and simultaneously demolish the flatulent Live Earth, announced this week, and provide a jumping off point for some of the world’s more ’samizdat’ music:

All told, the activity Neil Young characterised as rocking in the free world is now pretty much devoid of political meaning, and why anyone would think Anglo-American popular music was the province of dangerous and radical minds rather escapes me. Elsewhere, however, hitting an instrument and singing your pain is still among the most brave and important things you can do…

A quick Google turns up the tunes. Iran’s Hypernova specialise in spiky alternative numbers. Their song ‘Consequence’, which you can download from their Myspace page, has a guitar riff that any number of the tight-trousered chancers currently plodding around the UK ‘indie’ scene would kill for. Hypernova seem to be achieving some level of success away from Iran.

127, also from Iran, of who Harris says ‘they’d managed to put on four gigs in the past four years, and nobody was ever allowed to dance’ also have a Myspace page and are also a bit good. Their ‘Perfect Esfehan Blues‘ shuffles along under the weight of about a million different influences and still sounds ace. Their YouTube page is here - their website is frustratingly busted right now..

Belarus’ Chyrvonym pa Belamu’s ‘Nie Žadaju’ (fifth one down) samples Falco’s ‘Rock Me Amadeus’ but isn’t as naff as that might imply. If wouldn’t be out of place on the soundtrack to ‘The Shield‘, played over an episode’s typically elegaically violent denouement, maybe. His status as an artist in Belarus is uncertain. Not being an ‘official’ state-sanctioned musician can carry a penalty.

Turkey’s Deli face jail for having the temerity to criticise the country’s university entrance exam. Eighteen months, for God’s sake. You can hear the tune, OSYM, on YouTube, although the spud leaping around to it detracts somewhat.

(The Freemuse website is a dispiritingly thorough record of just how much trouble just picking up a guitar can get you into in a depressingl